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NeoGAF's Fall is a Sign of the Times in More Ways Than One

STARTING SCREEN | On the sudden end of a long-standing gaming community.

Column by Kat Bailey, USgamer Team, .

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I was browsing through old Super Famicom games at the Portland Retro Game Expo when I first caught wind of NeoGAF's swift and unexpected demise.

Word spread quickly among the attendees: Owner Tyler "Evilore" Malka had been accused of sexual assault; the moderation staff—which included USG reviews editor Mike Williams—was resigning en masse, and the boards were down.

Waypoint's Patrick Klepek does an admirable job of capturing everything that happened in the past 48 hours:

When the allegations surfaced, one moderator told me Malka quickly denied them. But as a chorus of legitimate questions surfaced, even the moderation staff wanted more answers. In a private Slack channel for moderators, Malka said a public statement was coming. "Internet drama isn't new to NeoGAF," said one moderator, "but when the allegation is that the site owner sexually harassed someone, and it is allowed to spiral out of control to a point where it's a really bad look, it's hard to justify sticking around without a knowing that there's a clear plan ahead. Not knowing how this would move forward is what sealed the deal for me. It's impossible to moderate the forum in future in good faith when I'm unable to honestly answer valid questions people might have about this matter."

It's impossible to divorce these events from the fall of Harvey Weinstein, the anger over allegations of sexual assault against Donald Trump, the accusations at Naughty Dog, and the recent #MeToo campaign (indeed, the allegations that brought down NeoGAF stemmed from that very campaign). It seems that we've finally reached a moment where accusations like these can't simply be swept under the rug. In that, NeoGAF's collapse is a sign of the times.

Also a sign of the times: the way in which its demise has once again laid bare the divisions in the gaming community.

When I commented on how stunning it was to see a long-standing community like NeoGAF fall apart almost overnight, my feed was filled with commenters saying "good riddance." The same thing happened in our news story over the weekend.

The reaction is a reminder of of how divided the gaming community has become over the past three years. When Gamergate erupted in 2014, NeoGAF was among the communities that firmly repudiated the "ethics in game journalism" crowd, aggressively banning accounts and locking pro-GG threads. In taking a stand, NeoGAF became politicized, earning it enmity that has since bubbled back to the surface.

Since then, these communities have been more or less at war. Indeed, when the accusations against Malka began to rise, some mods thought it was a GamerGate trick. From Klepek's article:

Due to this hostile relationship between GamerGate and NeoGAF, some wondered if the new allegations against Malka were fabricated as part of an attempt by GamerGate-friendly individuals to trick users. Several moderators I spoke to said this was the initial reaction internally, as well. It was a regular occurrence to have users "sacrifice" their accounts by posting inflammatory comments, knowing full well they'd be banned.

Anti-GAF groups contend that NeoGAF's discourse was toxic; that the moderation staff was too trigger happy, and that the orthodoxy around certain subjects was too strong (usually ones pertaining to social justice).

Personally, GAF seemed to me to be the same as it ever was before its fall: a hype-oriented community that was useful for gaming news and title-specific megathreads, but put way too much stock in the ups and downs of Metacritic. Like every other online community, it was prone to bouts of hysteria and a certain mob mentality, but its stricter membership requirements tended to keep the discourse reasonably civil.

Its strict moderation was a product of it being one of gaming's oldest communities, as well as Gaming Age's original goal of elevating the discourse around games. It was founded in an era before Youtube and social media, when the Internet consisted of a host of small and exclusive communities that were often heavily moderated. That it managed to remain influential made it something of a throwback, especially amid the growth of Reddit, Youtube, and Twitch.

Its collapse is the epitaph for a different era of gaming, one dominated by traditional games journalism and large message boards like NeoGAF. The new Internet is much more decentralized, with discussions taking place on everything from Facebook to Reddit. Gamers have long since gotten used to saying whatever they want, wherever they want. The old gatekeepers have increasingly fallen to the wayside amid the rise of "influencers."

It's hard to say how the fallout from all of this will settle. Many ex-NeoGAF posters have seemingly moved over to Waypoint forums. Some have been trying to start their own message board. Even OpenCritic has gotten involved. Whatever happens, its apparent that one of gaming's longest standing communities has been scattered to the wind.

Just another sign of the times.

Looking Ahead to the Rest of the Week

This is it: the biggest week of Fall 2017. Here are some of the most interesting games coming this week.

  • Destiny 2 PC (October 24, PC): If you've been holding out for 4K Destiny 2, then this is your moment. We'll have an in-depth breakdown of the PC release on Wednesday.
  • Hidden Agenda (October 24, PS4): A crime thriller from Supermassive Games, creators of Until Dawn. Some interesting mechanics. Caty is really excited about this one.
  • Assassin's Creed Origins (October 24, PS4, XBO, PC): Ubisoft's massive reboot aims to get the series back on track after a one-year sabbatical by emulating The Witcher 3. If nothing else, it's probably the best-looking game of this generation, and that'll be enough for a lot of people.
  • Super Mario Odyssey (October 27, Switch): The biggest Switch game since Breath of the Wild is already earning rave reviews. I'm mostly just fascinated by that dumb hat.

This week will account for most of this season's biggest games, with only Call of Duty and Star Wars Battlefront 2 still to go. Personally, I'm still hooked on Etrian Odyssey 5, but I might have to put it down soon to sample some of the bigger games. What are you planning on picking up?

Nadia's Note Block Beat Box: The Hammer Brothers' theme from Super Mario Bros 3

Super Mario Bros 3 came to Japanese Famicoms on this day in 1988. I was in grade two, and the playground was abuzz about Mario's latest adventure. Man, Japan seemed like such a faraway mystical place back then. At that point in my life, I could've told you everything you never wanted to know about Narnia, but what little I knew about Japan came off an old film reel we once watched in school. Talking Jesus Allegory Lions felt more real to me than Japanese people, and that's kind of sad and weird. I'm glad kids today learn a little more about the world around them than I did. Well, I hope they do.

Now that I'm wearing my age like a Technicolor dream coat, let's talk about Super Mario 3's music. Like the game's graphics and mechanics, Mario 3's soundtrack is a huge leap over the first game's simple (but compelling) tunes. The main stage tune (the one that accompanies you through 1-1) subscribes to a Calypso theme with a steel drum sound unlike anything else on the NES.

But unique percussion is Mario 3's game, so to speak. I love the funky beat backing up the Hammer Brothers' mini-stage music, especially the "knock-knock" sound at 0:18. Talk about great music to fling hammers by.

(Do not fling hammers. Especially indoors.)

Mike's Media Minute

It's kinda of a weird time to talk about Hollywood. The number one film two weeks ago was Happy Death Day. The number one film this past weekend was A Madea Halloween 2. Now, those are fine films with their intended audiences, but I admit that I'm not particularly interested in their prospects. Both were made for low-budgets and both were probably profitable in their opening weekend.

Soon, things will be getting interesting though. Thor: Ragnarok is coming on November 3, Murder on the Orient Express launches with an all-star cast on November 10, Justice League sees if it can get away from the shadow of Batman v Superman on November 17, and Pixar tries something new with Coco on November 22.

We've seen a fairly strong box office toplist this year, even if I believe that box office receipts overall are down. Domestically, our current top 5 is Beauty and the Beast (bet you forgot it came out this year), Wonder Woman, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spider-Man Homecoming, and IT. Worldwide, Beauty and the Beast stays at #1, but the next four are The Fate of the Furious, Despicable Me 3, Spider-Man Homecoming, and Wolf Warrior 2.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi will likely change that listing, pushing everything down a slot, but it'll be interesting to see where Justice League and Thor: Ragnarok fall. Regardless, the year is almost done!

Caty’s AltGame Corner

One of my favorite speed shooters in recent years was Lovely Planet, a game with a delightful soundtrack and a sugary aesthetic. It was a shooter that didn't look like any other shooter out there, and its unexpected high intensity was something I desired from most other shooters.

High Hell, the new game from the developers behind Heavy Bullets, Enter the Gungeon, and Gang Beasts, finally brings that style to a devilish landscape. It's a brutal type of speed shooter where you're outfitted with a shotgun, blasting criminals away in a low-poly world. It's a vibrant game too—kinda like Lovely Planet, if it fell on the opposite spectrum, swapping pastels for neon.

It's a crowded week for video games, with three major releases dropping this week (and a host of smaller titles too). If you need a break from it all, High Hell is the perfect bite-sized shooter to turn your attention to. It's available on itch.io for $9.99 on PC and Mac.

This Week's News and Notes

  • I went to the Portland Retro Gaming Expo over the weekend, mostly because I'm a nerd and I like old games. I was planning on making my adventures the focus of this week's column, but other events took priority.
    Anyway! I spent most of Saturday browsing the piles and piles of classic games, hardware, and merch, spending much more money than I intended along the way.
    Apart from the dealers, there was a massive retro arcade; a space for classic consoles; a Smash Bros. Melee tournament, and multiple panels. I also saw this for the first time:


    All in all, it was an amazing time; and if you haven't been, I strongly recommend you spend the money and go at least once. Just be warned: you're probably going to come home with a lot of classic games. They're kind of irresistable like that.
  • One of the highlights of the PRGE was this find: a $300 box of Mega Man 8 cels presented at Chris Kohler's Retro Gaming Roadshow. Videogame animation cels are a fascinating rarity, and the box included many high-quality images, making it incredibly valuable to collectors. Check out the gallery from our write-up.
  • Speaking of retro, Nadia's playthrough of Final Fantasy IX continues. You can follow along here with her regular write-ups.
  • In case you missed it, contributor Ed Smith has this tale of the big hopes and shattered dreams of The Magic Circle. Sadly, indie game development is more of a crapshoot than ever, with only a tiny fraction going on to become major successes. This is one of them.
  • One indie that has been enormously successful: Stardew Valley. Seemingly everyone has picked up a copy for their Nintendo Switch, which is kind of perfect platform for a farming sim like this. It's charming and beautiful, and certainly worth a play if you missed it the first time.
  • I'm told Stranger Things is almost back, which is great given that I've finally wrapped Bojack Horseman and Rick & Morty. On the other hand, this just means that I'm going to be stuck trying to avoid spoilers while everyone else blitzes it in a single day. Watching TV is hard now.
  • And finally, are you ready for some microtransactions?
    Because Nintendo is.

As always, we'll be here all week with news, reviews, guides, and commentary. Thank you for supporting USgamer, and good luck navigating the oncoming deluge of amazing games. You're going to need it.

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  • Avatar for kazriko #1 kazriko A month ago
    I have looked at GAF a few times, but never really used it. It didn't help that it was almost impossible to get an account there, but even if I had, I'd have likely not used it due to the sheer amount of noise involved. I'm much happier on internet forums that have maybe a couple dozen active posters rather than thousands. I just can't keep up with that many posts.
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  • Avatar for yuberus #2 yuberus A month ago
    On one hand, I am interested in a new Orient Express film. On the other, Tying into the sexual harassment and assault issues elsewhere in the media I'm not sure I need to see something with Johnny Depp in it.

    I never visited NeoGaf and thought much of their base was odd, but I appreciated their stance against harassment and what one could now readily associate with the modern nazi movement. As someone who does miss the heyday of forums (and how much better they are than Reddit or social media groups) it's a sad loss. I hope that it can re-form somewhere else, even if it's not quite the same as it was.
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  • Avatar for Roto13 #3 Roto13 A month ago
    NeoGAF's almost-relentless negativity about everything eventually drove me away, but I'll miss some of the smaller subcommunities. The Animal Crossing community was absolutely wonderful. I remember when New Leaf came out and people on Reddit and GameFAQs and what have you were selling each other items and villagers for bells but the GAF community was all "Oh, you want this thing? I have it, open your town gate and I'll bring it to you." Just a really friendly group of people who were happy to help each other out without expecting anything in return.
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  • Avatar for SatelliteOfLove #4 SatelliteOfLove A month ago
    It wasn't for nothing that I made that comment "the old fault lines of 'left' vs 'right' is being replaced by a new normal of 'normal people' vs 'raging assholes'. The new decentralized, laissez-faire internet that is both everywhere yet from nowhere is a completely different world from the one you described. Any gatekeeping must be done along those lines I typed, if only to keep the gray goo of lack of empathy at bay.

    Speaking of which: that gray goo is disinformationing up a storm right now on this very subject!

    Anywho, yeah, this article is more right by the day lately. I remember people remarking in years gone by on GAF that it was the last of the independant forums that didnt disappear, shrink to a relictual core, or go specific. A relic for sure, but a relic not long for this new world.
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  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest #5 donkeyintheforest A month ago
    I've got a mario preorder, handfuls of edibles, a three day weekend, and only one halloween party to interrupt my playing mwahahahaha <3<3<3
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  • Avatar for discohospital #6 discohospital A month ago
    It may be down to not being intimately familiar with the site as others are, but when I hear "original goal of elevating the discourse around games" and "heavily moderated" in relation to NeoGAF, I can't help but raise an eyebrow. Coming into video game culture (which at this point I'd characterize - I'd hope not controversially - as existing firmly within the bounds of something broader which may be termed "fan" or "nerd" culture) on the internet circa 2015 after more than a decade of almost total personal blackout in relation to video games in general, the culture shock took quite some time to acclimate to.

    Coming off of the level of discourse I've come to expect in more erudite parts of film culture, particularly cinephile culture, in all honestly and genuinely not trying to seem prudish or haughty, it's been rather difficult for me to reconcile my expectations with the broad tendencies I've encountered in the discourse surrounding video games. When you talk of the old internet, "gatekeepers", etc, I can't help but compare any example brought up to the long-established standard of CriterionForum.org, which is still very much alive and exemplifies what you're talking about, but to which I've found nothing even remotely comparable in video game culture in my recent engagement with it. You'd almost be set simply by copying and pasting that forum's rules and approach to moderation and decorum historically, but to build something like that would be an extremely difficult proposition in this day and age owing to the very "new internet" issues brought up here, and would by definition have to remain a very small and closed community, probably on a scale not even remotely comparable to that of NeoGAF. (And, to be fair, perhaps the issues in my estimation of NeoGAF owe more to its unwieldy size than anything.)

    The simple, earned expectation that USgamer's community tends to remain civil keeps me coming back - but I do fear, more generally, that there may not be a way back to what could be achieved with something as simple as an internet forum ten or twenty years ago.Edited last month by discohospital
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  • Avatar for Kat.Bailey #7 Kat.Bailey A month ago
    @discohospital Thanks for being a part of our little community.

    Sadly, you're right: "Elevated discourse" means something different in gaming than in, say, literature or film. Back in 1999, it just meant being more than a pure shill or a troll or a fanboy. That was what GAF was found upon.

    Nowadays, we're reaching a point where Waypoint can exist, which is awesome. Communities like USG can still be viable, whether in small subreddits or elsewhere. But otherwise the landscape is ruled by social media, which... ugh.
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  • Avatar for UnskippableCutscene #8 UnskippableCutscene A month ago
    In some ways, I'm glad there's a schism, though obviously I'm not glad it hurt a lot of lives. Unlike US political news, there were no "filter bubbles" in games outlets. If you were interested in video games, you basically had Kotaku and Polygon and a few other sites. As people employed by these sites began writing pieces off the well-worn path of gaming hype, particularly as the indie space lifted off, that essentially revealed their own political leanings in assuming the reader would want to read about it, too.

    Even as someone who belongs to a gayming Facebook club, I can understand why a lot of people from a number of cultures around the world wouldn't want to read a long-form piece about GaymerX and queer game development in 2013. I can get why they see a site frequently publishing articles pushing the boundaries of socio-political normalcies as the site taking ownership of an agenda. And I can understand wanting to separate yourself from a site if it espouses an agenda you don't agree with, whether it's "videogame equivalent of Salon" or "videogame equivalent of InfoWars", I wouldn't want to be subscribed to either of them.

    Personally, I guess I filter toward the neutral. I never wanted to be either "woke" or "redpilled", and so the sites that are widely known for taking provocative stances and engaging readers over tightly held social beliefs are ones I avoid. Some people like that, though, and so that's why I'm glad sites that do take an unabashed stance exist. I'll admit that I personally don't care to read. I get that other people do. I'm glad they have a zone to congregate, as does their opposition.

    This site and even it's comments are so frequently polite that even when it does approach touchy issues, I can read and make up my own mind without feeling like I'm being enlisted into the culture wars. It feels like the online version of the corporate 16/32-bit era publications, at least the ones that weren't obnoxiously bro-tastic (I somehow managed to avoid almost every one of those.) I suppose that sort of sanitized, newsy look outlines what I personally lean toward.Edited 2 times. Last edited last month by UnskippableCutscene
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  • Avatar for LBD_Nytetrayn #9 LBD_Nytetrayn A month ago
    Years ago, a now-former employer wanted me to register for NeoGAF on account of the news that would break there. So I tried, they didn't accept me for whatever reason, and I never looked back.
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  • Avatar for Tetragrammaton #10 Tetragrammaton A month ago
    Pity about neoGAF, the off-topic recommendation threads were EXCELLENT, I found some real great movies and thinkpieces through the place. The easy news aggregator was the off topic forum at large was helpful as well.

    Indie gaming is the hardest market in gaming, period. In order to be a success, it feels you either need to set expectations low or already be successful. Real shame, but the sheer volume of content is impossible to keep up with.
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  • Avatar for KaiserWarrior #11 KaiserWarrior A month ago
    @discohospital There's no going back, not today.

    The rise of the social-media-driven internet has given rise to the ultimate in echo chambers, and the unfortunate end-result of that is that it is no longer possible to simply disagree with someone out in the broader internet. "I don't agree with what you're saying" is auto-translated to "I think you are a terrible person and I hope terrible things happen to you".

    Thing is, GAF was one of the blazing epitomes of that exact mindset. Disagreement was grounds for a ban. Wrongthink was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not a guidebook for how to run a forum.

    I keep visiting USGamer because the discourse here is excellent in comparison to 99% of the rest of the gaming-related internet. We can have civil discussions here. We can disagree with each other without assuming that the other person is Actually Skeletor, or one of his henchmen. That's incredibly valuable in this day and age where the only settings almost everywhere else are "sycophantic agreement" and "toxic hostility", no matter which side is considered to be right at the site in question.
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  • Avatar for NiceGuyNeon #12 NiceGuyNeon A month ago
    I didn't even know what NeoGAF was until you guys started posting about it.... So it's just a forum?

    I'm just not understanding how I missed out on NeoGAF for all these years, to the point where I'm like "whaaaaaat???"

    I'm curious about Murder on the Orient Express though. I hope it's good because it looks really fun. While I'm sure Star Wars will break sales records, I'm not feeling it. Episode 7 was pretty weak, I skipped out on Rogue One because it looks D-U-M-B, and I'm thinking 8 is probably not going to do it for me either.

    I'm probably in the minority but I don't care!

    Also, how brilliant was Blade Runner 2049 though? Oh man, that was my jam! So freaking good.
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  • Avatar for discohospital #13 discohospital A month ago
    @KaiserWarrior I'm admittedly ignorant in regard to a lot of the things being brought up about the place now, including the politics (in any definition of that word) and the nature of the approach to moderation that people are talking about, which to me sounds a lot more like nuclear warfare than the definition of "moderation" that I've come to associate with careful, curated encouragement of the kind of discussion desired by a community rather than any desire to silence anyone or widen divides (but at the same time also designed to maintain civility and keep out anything hateful or otherwise inflammatory).

    ---

    Since it's an issue I don't feel comfortable sidestepping in this context I'd like to touch on the following, even if in an admittedly overly general and perhaps reductive way: I think a context can be created in which political and social issues can be intelligently discussed in relation to video games, the game industry, and gamers - and in fact this is of course a necessary part of discussion of anything which engages with representation of human experience - but that foundation needs to be created and needs to be nurtured systemically in a way that's going to be really, really difficult from the starting point of what exists now. It still has to be the product of a community of people on the same page, obviously (but not necessarily in lock-step in terms of point of view - it is possible!), and that's of course going to be a lot easier in smaller communities. I can say the way that we see now isn't the only way, and that we don't necessarily have to simply say "no politics at the dinner table" and walk away. I'd say that nuance doesn't have to belong to the privileged few, but perhaps it's a start if a few capable of it congregate in one place.
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  • Avatar for KaiserWarrior #14 KaiserWarrior A month ago
    @discohospital That middleground certainly can exist, but people have to want it. They have to be willing to deal with people that don't share their opinions, and that is a rapidly-disappearing life skill. The modern internet allows people to easily, systematically remove their exposure to dissenting points of view, and over a long period of time that results in people that cannot handle dissent. And it's not just a video games problem, it's a societal problem. We now live in a world where disagreeing with someone, even politely, is seen as a personal attack in a lot of places.
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  • Avatar for VotesForCows #15 VotesForCows A month ago
    @discohospital That sort of discussion is what Feminist Frequency tries to achieve - and Sarkeesian is living the price you pay for attempting it. The gaming community is largely utterly horrible, or at least the most visible part of it is.

    Anyway, I used to visit NeoGAF a lot - was good at one stage. Shame this has happened. And I hope the lady who made the initial accusations does ok and nobody starts a witch-hunt. That's the worry whenever anyone says anything these days...
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  • Avatar for discohospital #16 discohospital A month ago
    @KaiserWarrior It does become too easy when all you have to do is "change the channel". I'm certainly guilty of it.

    And (if it's not already apparent) I want to be clear that when I bring up civility, which I've done twice in this thread, I don't mean the superficial kind that arises as a result of walking on eggshells or avoiding topics that tend to draw out strong feelings. I think there are plenty of examples out there that you can look at that manage to get to the core of the most sensitive or controversial topics with a kind of intellectual dynamism and relentless inquisitiveness without sacrificing the core essence / importance of what's at hand or allowing things to be carried by egos or stoking/playing up of emotions. But yeah, people have to want it, and have to have the wherewithal and patience to bring it about.
    @VotesForCows Absolutely, and it's easy to see the narrative that might play out there, even if - while having watched a number of her videos - I've sort of avoided looking at the particulars of the reaction to it firsthand (see "guilty" above!)

    What I find it difficult to reconcile myself with is I suppose a practical problem - given the size of video game culture on the internet (and not just that culture as was pointed out, but for the sake of this topic) - you have folks on YouTube, for example, who may as well be on TV given their viewership, and it becomes virtually impossible to have direct discourse with them (or with much of anyone else for that matter in comments sections, etc) given all of the noise attracted the more popular (or notorious) they become. It's of course inevitable, and necessary, and in many cases the influence of that position has an empowering effect for not just them but their viewers, but this just ends up with me - personally - back at my points about small communities (and I do of course appreciate that USG is small enough that we can actually speak directly with the writers here).Edited last month by discohospital
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  • Avatar for kidgorilla #17 kidgorilla A month ago
    @VotesForCows From what the Waypoint article indicates, she's getting her share of victim-blaming, I think. Terrible.
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  • Avatar for VotesForCows #18 VotesForCows A month ago
    @discohospital An interesting comparison is here versus Eurogamer - somewhat similar sites, but utterly different communities. I've got all sorts of nonsense in the comments over there, whereas here the worst you'd get is a neg on a comment :)

    @kidgorilla That sucks, but isn't surprising. Revising my original comment, I guess its not gamers in general that are horrible, its mobs and mob-mentality.
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  • Avatar for matt-b #19 matt-b A month ago
    the type of discourse being discussed (a bit redundant i suppose) can and does exist.

    my favorite places to discuss gaming are here at usg, easy allies, retronauts and hardcore gaming 101. those are a handful of communities that time and time again impress me with not only their long-form content but also the incredible civility of their online communities.
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  • Avatar for Talraen #20 Talraen A month ago
    @UnskippableCutscene Just wanted to say this was a great post, and just giving it a +1 wasn't enough. Actually, there are quite a few thought-provoking posts in this thread, which is why US Gamer is one of the few places left where I'm not afraid to read the comments. :)
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  • Avatar for kidgorilla #21 kidgorilla A month ago
    Maybe this goes without saying, but I hope the staff at USG are proud of the work they're doing here and the community they've helped cultivate out of it. Recent events notwithstanding, comments in this story have already pointed out the civility of this place, and that starts with good leadership
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  • Avatar for SargeSmash #22 SargeSmash A month ago
    I'm looking forward to Murder on the Orient Express. I'm a big Poirot fan, although I have to admit that David Suchet is going to be hard to top.
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  • Avatar for Jeremiah-Jones #23 Jeremiah-Jones A month ago
    @Kat.Bailey I'm glad UsGamer is here.

    I only went to GAF for the High Res Game Art thread. I will miss that...
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  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest #24 donkeyintheforest A month ago
    @NiceGuyNeon I thought Rogue One was much better than 7. It wasn't a remake like 7 was, it was just some slightly too self serious fun in the Star Wars universe with lots of cool ships and stuff. That said, I'm def not that excited for 8.

    Glad you enjoyed blade runner! Me too, but that vision of the future landscape is terrifyingly realistic ahhhh!
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  • Avatar for Flipsider99 #25 Flipsider99 A month ago
    Count me as one of the ones glad to see NeoGAF fall. Personally I would like to see websites like this one rise up and take it's place, places where people can express different points of view without immediately being banned from the community, as long as they do so respectfully.

    Moderation is important, you have to keep civility and order. But moderation that silences voices for having the "wrong" opinions is something that I am just adamantly against, in any community.
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  • Avatar for JohnnyBananas #26 JohnnyBananas A month ago
    Definitely appreciate the USG community - I've been so impressed and thankful for the almost always measured and nuanced takes on topics that are ripe for hot takes (special shoutout to Mike on this front).

    I chalk it up to the fact that the site has more retro coverage and thus, I assume, an older readership. Also doesn't hurt that probably the type of person who follows Kat, Bob and Jeremy to a small, unknown gaming site (a .net no less!) has a little less tolerance for clickbaity garbage and inflammatory rhetoric in the content or comments.

    Anyhow, glad the site exists, keep up the good work.
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