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  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 2 days ago

    super mario sunshine? I feel like it was poorly regarded for a long time, and then people came around, and then stopped liking it again. i can't keep up. seems the case for most of these games.

    oh and forza 7. haha i feel like loot boxes turned everyone off, even though theyre optional and you can only purchase them with credits earned by racing (pretty easily).

    Posted in What's Your Favorite Critically or Fan-Panned Game?

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 5 days ago

    @docexe haha thanks for pointing that out. I responded to two people in my first comment and and missed that the family guy thing was to the other person cause it's been a few days. Sorry about that. Yeah part of my background is in art and art history. Everyone can have their own view of what art is, but at a certain point it makes sense to have relatively agreed upon definition and canon of works or the conversation can devolve into subjective discussion of definition what you propose might happen here. I am using the traditionally agreed upon that's evolved over the last few hundred years as taught in academia, but I totally agree it doesn't always make sense without that background. It doesn't even always make sense with that background hahaha. Thanks for engaging.

    Posted in Ready Player One is Already Polarizing Fans and Critics

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 5 days ago

    @docexe While I 100% agree that all those movies you list could be considered "outstanding and captivating piece[s] of craftsmanship in a given artistic medium and/or genre" I don't consider any of them art (however, I could see arguments made for Dr Strangelove or 2001, and I haven't seen Psychosis). You have defined art far too broadly (there are many definitions of art, and yes, yours would fit one, but that is not the type I am talking about). There is a distinct difference between art and craft. Something can be a fantastic movie, but that does not make it art (and to be clear, I don't think academy award type films are "art" either). I think art has a much more complicated definition than just being something well made and interesting for its medium/genre. I think it requires a knowledge of themes much greater than those confined to genre or medium. Contemporary art subverts or recontextualizes rules and expectations to create a message that also requires contemplation and knowledge from the viewer.

    I'm sorry my definition is so squishy, but art is subjective. It's often easier to say what is not art than what is. There is just so much to learn before anyone can understand a piece of art. While something like a Richard Serra work may just look like a slab of metal, there is actually a lot more going on there. For most movies shown in theaters however, they aren't relying on the viewer to bring as much to the table; they just want people to be entertained/have a straightforward experience. It is all about expectations, and what a viewer wants to get from what they’re viewing (playing, listening to, etc). You say I think I am saying that people should “should lower their expectations by default based on how goofy the story and the premise can be” but I am actually saying people should change their expectations. If you expect to get the same thing out of TMNT: Out of the Shadows as Shirin Neshat’s Turbulent, you’re going to be disappointed... but I love both! Although I generally keep separate my love of art and my love of things like standard videogames or movies due to these expectations, it can get exciting when they overlap.

    I tend to think of video games/film as medium rather than genre, so you can have things like Jeffrey Shaw's Golden Calf, The Cat and the Coup, and even Super Mario clouds; things I would consider art overlapping with video games. There is a lot more of that type of stuff out there, but it's hard to find because it’s uncovered by the gaming press (for the most part), stuck in small articles in Art Forum, or limited to in-person experiences like those at conventions. The overlap between gamers and art historians/artists is growing, but the distance between their expectations is still vast. As far as "movies" I'd consider art, they'd be more along the lines of Meshes of the Afternoon, River of Fundament, Semiotics of the Kitchen, Two or Three Things I know about her, even The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, The Holy Mountain and Pink Flamingos (there is room for argument on some of those, but they are generally safe bets when describing art academically; “art films/arthouse” mean different things to different people too but that’s another topic haha).

    When I said, “When you have a story that focuses around characters accomplishing tasks like getting a killscreen in pac-man faster than the bad guys, and large scale virtual battles with Leopardon (likely replaced by the iron giant in the movie) fighting MechaGodzilla, how seriously does it have to be taken?” it wasn’t because I meant that those subjects could never result in great art, it’s because I’ve read the book, know what happens, know that it’s not great art, and know that people are reacting in a way to the trailers that comes not from a place of analysis of the film (or even book), but from their feelings about things like the commodification of nostalgia, or seeing their favorite IPs diluted, or possibly some other personal response that has caused them to lash out. Most of the conversation about this movie has been led by people who haven’t seen the film, and even the comments of people have seen it (quoted above) shows that commenters are holding grudges less about the film and more because of meta-analysis (encompassing the cultural shift in pop culture that brings the obscured and rejected into the mainstream, idolizing recognized properties, etc.). Basically, I think that there is far too much group sanctioned negativity surrounding this movie that is not based on the merits of the film itself. I could see how you read what I wrote to mean something other than I intended though (just as I interpreted your Family Guy comment in a different way than you intended).

    Anyways, I appreciate the discussion and sorry if I’m writing too much haha. I prefer hellboy 2 to Pans Labyrinth; the latter wasted most of the movie spent with misogynist fascists (I came for the labyrinth and its denizens advertised in the trailer and only got like 10 mins of that!) and the former had a goblin market that contained a lot of the cool creature stuff that I liked in Pan. Haven’t seen Pan’s since the theater though, so maybe it deserves a rewatch. I think Crimson Peak is my fave Del Toro, but I haven’t seen Chronos, Mimic, or Devils Backbone.

    Posted in Ready Player One is Already Polarizing Fans and Critics

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 6 days ago

    No mention of co-op or multiplayer minigames? From what I've seen around they sound fun but simple. I actually liked the minigames in kirby airride more than the actual game haha

    Posted in Kirby Star Allies Review

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 6 days ago

    @docexe thanks for clearing that up, though who am I to call 50 shades or Twilight bad novels (haha alright they're bad novels)? yeah, I'm pretty much of the mind that I am not going to waste my time complaining about what other people like online unless it's directly related to the discussion. if they like something that I dont, and it doesn't hurt me, so what? Also I tend to like stuff that is generally not thought of as great by most people so I guess I can see where they're coming from. I totally agree with you that "A bad novel that has accrued a really fervent Fandom but also a pretty large and vocal hatedom, and that elicits a lot more hate, rage and scorn online than what it actually merits, regardless of its actual lack of artistic quality".

    As for arguing "that even the most silly or off-the-wall premise can still be treated seriously and even lead to great art," I don't think I really objected to this. I def implied that this movie is not great art, but I didn't mean to make a big sweepeing statement.

    That said, I would not call The Shape of Water great art either. It had about the most generic bad guy ever (even generic for a Michael Shannon character), the standard tropes of plot structure, generic science vs ethics/caring themes (even Monster Trucks did that better), etc. It did have wonderful sets, an interesting color palate, a likeable protagonist and some very solid secondary characters. It also stands out next to a lot of the Oscar bait that usually gets nominated. However, having watched Creature from the Black Lagoon a week prior to watching The Shape of Water, I can safely say (in my opinion) its a better film and still not great art either.

    Admittedly, I have a pretty high bar for what constitutes "great art" and it tends to be found in museums and in the mind, not in movie theaters or on videogame consoles. There is a difference between artistry and art, and maybe even "great art." I'm not saying videogames or film (and digital; movies in general) aren't capable of being "art," I'm just saying it is very rare, and can still be great works with meaning and technical proficiency regardless of whether they are considered "art" or "great art" or whatever.

    Posted in Ready Player One is Already Polarizing Fans and Critics

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 7 days ago

    @novacav if you just do a google search of that address you can find the actual link. Alternately you can try this.

    Also, the thing with the antidepressant drugs is completely spurious (ie doesn't even consider how many more shootings they may have prevented). I've seen that same talking point posted other places and it makes no sense. It seems to have been pushed by an anti-pharmaceutical lobbying group and gained steam among conspiracy theory types. If you have a better source than the one I'm talking about, I'd be interested.

    Posted in Video Game Scapegoating is More Shameless Than Ever

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 7 days ago

    @docexe Well twilight is basically vampires vs werewolf fanfic and fifty shades of gray actually started as twilight fanfic (!). However, ready player one isn't actually fanfic; none of the characters or vehicles you see in the trailer are supposed to be those characters, they are all in game items/avatars for a kind of fancy second life in which most of the book takes place. It's an original story, but instead of the characters driving fords and toyotas, they're driving back to the future deloreans and millenium falcons.

    If you're talking about writing quality, ready player one is no masterpiece, but I though it was written much more competently than something like hunger games (prob second worst written book I've read stylistically, but plenty of people enjoyed it and the movie was fine so I'm not complaining really). That just comes down to personal preference though and has no real bearing on how the movie will turn out. When I read ready player one a few years ago I thought the book would make for a fun movie, but that licencing all the IPs mentioned would be an impossible task; however with Spielberg aboard it seems they've made some major headway!

    When you have a story that focuses around characters accomplishing tasks like getting a killscreen in pac-man faster than the bad guys, and large scale virtual battles with Leopardon (likely replaced by the iron giant in the movie) fighting MechaGodzilla, how seriously does it have to be taken?
    @Roto13 I think I understand the family guy comment to be about this movie relying on references to be entertaining, but while a viewers enjoyment of this movie may benefit from familiarity with pop culture franchises, the book at least does not pander to lowest common denominator racist, sexist, etc jokes like family guy does. It actually has a positive message about social equality.

    Posted in Ready Player One is Already Polarizing Fans and Critics

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 11 days ago

    surprising myself, captain toad in 3d on the 3ds is what i'm actually excited for the most. i love the diorama effect of the 3ds and this will be it at it's best. but should i buy a new 3ds for it? no, but maybe if wario ware is 4 player-one-cart than i will...

    Posted in Nintendo Direct Recap: Smash Bros, Splatoon Expansion, and Ports, Oh My!

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 11 days ago

    alternately have this be mario's ultimate and let him cap other players and fight badly with them/jump off a cliff/etc

    Posted in Smash Bros: The 7 Characters We Want in the New Switch Version

  • Avatar for donkeyintheforest donkeyintheforest 12 days ago

    I always thought that subway entrance in Splatoon 2's hub area was taunting me...

    Posted in Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion Lets You Unlock Octolings as Playable Characters